tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post741861096778484796..comments2023-09-12T21:54:10.845-05:00Comments on Why I Am Not A Dispensationalist: Animal Sacrifices in the Millennium?Eric Adamshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06321115831719694890noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-12356030779362695662019-07-03T06:53:48.528-05:002019-07-03T06:53:48.528-05:00The author rejects a literal reading of the text. ...The author rejects a literal reading of the text. The prophecies concerning Christ’s first advent were fulfilled literally. If one believes God, future prophecies will also be fulfilled literally. The author, and others who subscribe to his view, do not believe God. Hebrews says that without faith it is impossible to please God. The author’s problem is unbelief. We may not fully understand the purpose of animal sacrifices in the Millennium, but the text says they will occur. Samdahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05938710805455382578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-59095557698458567492017-12-08T02:37:10.318-06:002017-12-08T02:37:10.318-06:00All of the pastors, websites, teachers, preachers,...All of the pastors, websites, teachers, preachers, and man made commentaries that deny Biblical dispensations are wrong. All of the dispensationalists who believe salvation is the same in every dispensation are wrong. The dispensationalists who claim salvation in the Old Testament was by faith alone in the Messiah just as it is today are wrong. The only time you will find faith alone in Christ alone based salvation is in the church age dispensation: This is from the death of the Lord Jesus Christ on the cross, to the coming Pre Tribulation Rapture of the church. From Adam and Eve until the death of Christ on the cross, people both Jews and Gentiles had to faithfully sacrifice innocent animals like lambs and goats and bulls and doves in order for them to get into paradise. If they did not do this they would go to Hell when they died. When Jesus Christ God the Son died on the cross for our sins He paid the sin debt for all mankind. Those Old Testament saints who had faithfully obeyed God were taken from paradise up to the third Heaven. They were not sealed forever like the born again church age saint is. After the Pre Tribulation Rapture the dispensation changes and the Jews and Gentiles must endure to the end in keeping the Law plus faith and avoiding the Mark of the Beast during the Tribulation. During the literal 1000 year Millenial Kingdom the persons must obey the Lord Jesus Christ while He is physically and visibly on earth. If they do not obey Him and they sin He will punish them and send them to Hell. In the Eternal Kingdom presumably there will only be saved people in glorified bodies. Case SodBusterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11375904371149843215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-24043208310718816022016-03-06T07:49:40.613-06:002016-03-06T07:49:40.613-06:00The Authr of this bog clealy seems to be of the be...The Authr of this bog clealy seems to be of the belief that he gets to decide when Scripture is literal or figurative rather than letting it define itself in those terms.<br /><br />Not to mention he is defining terms to mean a belief system that may be shared by some in that group as the requisite defining belief. This either bears false witness to those groups intentionally or unintentionally. If unintentional, he should take the time to actually learn about a group before he bashes them and appears mean-spirited or foolish in his attacks.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11232079726022599578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-64515711903891317982014-10-22T16:47:25.145-05:002014-10-22T16:47:25.145-05:00Yes, Charles Arnold, you misunderstood my statemen...Yes, Charles Arnold, you misunderstood my statement. In the quotation that you supplied, I say the exact opposite of what you conclude.Eric Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06321115831719694890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-71239803120466343412014-10-21T19:24:32.370-05:002014-10-21T19:24:32.370-05:00In your article you state "Whereas all Premil...In your article you state "Whereas all Premillennialists believe in a future Millennium on earth, Dispensationalists are unique in that they believe that the temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem, according to the vision given in Ezekiel 40-48"<br /><br />Maybe I misunderstand the statement but I am 'Premillennialist' and have always associated that term to refer to the belief in the premillenial return of our Lord; nothing to do with the rebuilding of the temple or reinstatement of the sacrafices. I think you're mixing terminology.<br /><br />I also believe what God told Ezekiel will happen. The sacrifices will occur again. Now that always gave me pause, but not to disbelief, only to the knowledge that I didn't have the answer yet because if I'm certain of one thing - God knows what He's doing.<br /><br />I believe the answer lies in the time period, the Millennium. A clue, God told Ezekiel that the priests were to teach the people. In the Millennium, what people? Well, certainly not us, we've already been saved. But there will be children born who will have to choose, just as you and I have chosen to accept Christ. Not looking forward as Abraham, but back to a completed work.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03200335795986125063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-90173191329793631992014-06-27T07:38:55.261-05:002014-06-27T07:38:55.261-05:00is it plausible to place this at the beginning of ...is it plausible to place this at the beginning of the 7 year tribulation rather than in the actual 1000 years?<br />The Jews repent and return to God, yet still reject Jesus, rebuild the Temple and the Jews follow the OT sacrificial Laws. This also places the events of Ezek. 36-39 prior to the Tribulation.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07786535831354060007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-69898249834550227692014-02-19T08:55:34.729-06:002014-02-19T08:55:34.729-06:00ZDENNY, are you a farmer? Because that was an exce...ZDENNY, are you a farmer? Because that was an excellent Straw Man!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00908076380049927815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-30026142649858956162013-12-05T20:28:53.200-06:002013-12-05T20:28:53.200-06:00It appears I've been calling myself a dispensa...It appears I've been calling myself a dispensationalist without knowing the scope of what that means...<br /><br />When I discovered recently the dispensational position on the millennial temple and animal sacrifices, I was shocked. I thought, "It can't be true, doesn't make sense. It contradicts everything I know about Salvation." Yet, there it was staring me right in the face (Ezekiel 40).<br /><br />What I do know about dispensationalism is that the hermeneutic is based on a literal interpretation of Scripture. And there it is, in painstaking detail, the temple in Ezekiel's vision.<br /><br />Now, "literal interpretation" is used in the pejorative by non-dispensationalists. Some folks go so far as to call dispensationalists bibliolators, a sweeping and unfounded accusation. Because of its pejorative usage, Ryrie suggests to use "historical grammatical interpretation" and I can't think of a good reason not to honor that.<br /><br />Back to the discussion... When confronted with so much detail in Ezekiel 40, how can the non-progressive dispensationalist write it off as symbolic or figurative? We can't. It's there.<br /><br />Trying to reconcile the apparent diminution of the cross that the non-dispensationalist sees so clearly in the dispensationalist position with the one path to Salvation position that dispensationalists like Ryrie articulate equally clearly is difficult, just like reconciling the antithetical nature of grace and law is difficult (for dispensationalists and non-dispensationalists).<br /><br />I'm no theologian, so what follows isn't corroborated by any literature I'm aware of and it may be offensive, but that's not intended. What if? What if this passage is part of Israel's judgement? What if the millennium isn't supposed to be about making Israel happy? What if it's about, "You rejected the kingdom I offered you in Matthew 4, so let's have that kingdom now that I've been exalted by the Father. You want to make animal sacrifices? Do it for 1000 years. Yeah, that sounds like a good complete number. I'm all about giving you the desires of your heart. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!"<br /><br />Just sayin'.<br />Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17294317676193378416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-49486223228979768772013-12-05T20:28:05.672-06:002013-12-05T20:28:05.672-06:00It appears I've been calling myself a dispensa...It appears I've been calling myself a dispensationalist without knowing the scope of what that means...<br /><br />When I discovered recently the dispensational position on the millennial temple and animal sacrifices, I was shocked. I thought, "It can't be true, doesn't make sense. It contradicts everything I know about Salvation." Yet, there it was staring me right in the face (Ezekiel 40).<br /><br />What I do know about dispensationalism is that the hermeneutic is based on a literal interpretation of Scripture. And there it is, in painstaking detail, the temple in Ezekiel's vision.<br /><br />Now, "literal interpretation" is used in the pejorative by non-dispensationalists. Some folks go so far as to call dispensationalists bibliolators, a sweeping and unfounded accusation. Because of its pejorative usage, Ryrie suggests to use "historical grammatical interpretation" and I can't think of a good reason not to honor that.<br /><br />Back to the discussion... When confronted with so much detail in Ezekiel 40, how can the non-progressive dispensationalist write it off as symbolic or figurative? We can't. It's there.<br /><br />Trying to reconcile the apparent diminution of the cross that the non-dispensationalist sees so clearly in the dispensationalist position with the one path to Salvation position that dispensationalists like Ryrie articulate equally clearly is difficult, just like reconciling the antithetical nature of grace and law is difficult (for dispensationalists and non-dispensationalists).<br /><br />I'm no theologian, so what follows isn't corroborated by any literature I'm aware of and it may be offensive, but that's not intended. What if? What if this passage is part of Israel's judgement? What if the millennium isn't supposed to be about making Israel happy? What if it's about, "You rejected the kingdom I offered you in Matthew 4, so let's have that kingdom now that I've been exalted by the Father. You want to make animal sacrifices? Do it for 1000 years. Yeah, that sounds like a good complete number. I'm all about giving you the desires of your heart. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!"<br /><br />Just sayin'.<br />Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17294317676193378416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-35329061001034781382013-11-20T22:42:14.912-06:002013-11-20T22:42:14.912-06:00I am 57 years old and all my life I have been a Di...I am 57 years old and all my life I have been a Dispensationalist and I believe they are correct, but we could be wrong. I recently began attending a church that holds to the view of this blog, I find it very challenging to accept the view of pretty much sailing over the book of Revelations with its very, very spelled out step by step teachings of what will happen in the end times. If we are not to take that in a literal sense, then what a waste of time to look at it. If there is only Ezekiel to point at and say that this has to be proof that there is not going to be a literal reign for a thousand years, then that is no different than reform covenant groups saying that there are weak suggestions about a rapture before the second coming. Like one said earlier we all will know one day and I hope it's soon. I do know that the blood of Jesus has cleansed me from all my sin and still does continually.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14868706261895561108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-57453362633108069052013-11-15T21:15:21.231-06:002013-11-15T21:15:21.231-06:00Prince said;
Let's just wait and see if there ...Prince said;<br />Let's just wait and see if there will be sacrifices or no sacrifices.<br />If there will still be sacrifices God has a reason for it, if not no problem. Let's face it, some things we just can't understand in scripture. I am sure that this blog was not intended to divide brethren. We should all just hold on to what the cross has done for us and not argue about the future events that we can't understand. The secret things belong to God. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17390137497284677568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-19904271561603362512013-06-11T12:50:44.070-05:002013-06-11T12:50:44.070-05:00There is an assumption that the Church Age would b...There is an assumption that the Church Age would be worse off if there were sacrifices. Not true, there are no animal sacrifices because there is no Temple. Jesus in his foreknowledge and because of Israel's rejection allowed for a periodic "sacrifice" using wine(blood) and bread (body). The Church Age sacrifices (communion) serve the same purpose as the Mosaic sacrifices - building fences (continually reminding us) around our old sin nature so that the scapegoat mechanism that crucified our Lord, doesn't engulf us.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04706344245563992900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-38772709701788957602013-05-31T12:37:08.648-05:002013-05-31T12:37:08.648-05:00I wish I had the time to really discuss this with ...I wish I had the time to really discuss this with y'all; however, at the moment, I cannot. I will say this as a PhD candidate in both Hebrew Bible and Philosophy: You are walking on very dangerous ground as a Covenant theologian holding to an allegorical hermeneutic (and, yes, without a doubt that is what y'all use). Understand in all of my rabbinic studies the hermeneutic used by the Tannaim onwards was in no wise different from the hermeneutic used by Reformed ministers and theologians. Sorry for the quick and probably grammatically horrible post. Just something to think about.Xapishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07749199706947685727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-86077814677547522072013-04-27T08:18:19.100-05:002013-04-27T08:18:19.100-05:00I find the opening statement on this blog interest...I find the opening statement on this blog interesting. It is stated that the dispensationalists insist that there will be animal sacrifices in the millennium.<br /><br />It seems to be lost that God is the author of that scripture....not the dispensationalists. <br /><br />I personally do not understand why we would ever need animal sacrifice again....but how can we justify dismissing God's word because of our inability to understand His great plan for us?<br /><br />I am very interested to hear your interpretation of the Ezekiel scriptures...if you think that God did not mean what He said.M. Blancohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12790945946457617259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-12041570504341826172013-04-21T22:27:31.113-05:002013-04-21T22:27:31.113-05:00The sacrificial altar will be reestablished for th...The sacrificial altar will be reestablished for the unsaved that made it through the tribulation and the children born during this time that will not accept Christ as their Savior, it is not for the Believers. Satan will lead a rebellion and entice many unbelievers to follow Him.Annelhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09624605343465751469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-60207338763830035702013-04-21T22:15:34.527-05:002013-04-21T22:15:34.527-05:00I`m a bit late with a comment, but My understandin...I`m a bit late with a comment, but My understanding of this is, that during the Millennium there will be people there that have made it through the tribulation that do not know Christ as their Savior, also pregnant Women who will bear Children that will not accept Christ as their Savior so the Sacrificial Altar will be for the unsaved. Lucifer will entice a multitude of unbelievers to go with Him. Annelhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09624605343465751469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-2872761677292215812012-12-29T06:58:55.270-06:002012-12-29T06:58:55.270-06:00I cut my teeth on dispensationalism, but I abandon...I cut my teeth on dispensationalism, but I abandon it more every day. On a good day, it's a kludge. On a bad day, it's literalism gone bad. Good thread here, Thanks!Evan Plantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06362166776479635148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-64822781759279750042012-11-28T20:13:50.920-06:002012-11-28T20:13:50.920-06:00The Squirrel,
Fair point in response to the over...The Squirrel, <br /><br />Fair point in response to the overstatement by odmail. What did you think of my post?Eric Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06321115831719694890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-10209183399167684682012-11-27T08:46:20.666-06:002012-11-27T08:46:20.666-06:00odmail said...
"yes, I agree. sacrifices of a...odmail said...<br />"<i>yes, I agree. sacrifices of any kind after the Cross contradict the value of Christ's finished work.</i>"<br /><br />So, what do you do with the fact that Paul offered sacrifices in the temple in Acts 21?<br /><br /> [Acts 21:26] "Then Paul took the men, and the next day he purified himself along with them and went into the temple, giving notice when the days of purification would be fulfilled <b>and the offering presented</b> for each one of them."<br /><br /><i>The Squirrel</i>The Squirrelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14082708506676251152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-60218655640255983992012-06-29T01:33:09.434-05:002012-06-29T01:33:09.434-05:00This was very helpful. I'm currently writing a...This was very helpful. I'm currently writing a position paper on Amillennialism, and you've highlighted a key problem I have with dispensational premillennialism. Blessings!Joel Settecasehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07386566601276368999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-59813634738517507452012-03-02T01:28:14.344-06:002012-03-02T01:28:14.344-06:00Zdenny, Why would God want us to offer sacrifices ...Zdenny, Why would God want us to offer sacrifices to remember our sins, when he's already forgotten them? There is no longer any offering. <br /><br />Hebrews 10<br /><br /> 16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws in their hearts and will write them on their minds,<br /><br />17 and I will never again remember their sins and their lawless deeds.”<br /><br />18 Now where there is forgiveness of these sins,there is no longer any offering for sin.alowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214139233982853017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-80184640781685044872012-03-01T09:36:10.792-06:002012-03-01T09:36:10.792-06:00ncbookz, that's pure gnosticism. Jesus became ...ncbookz, that's pure gnosticism. Jesus became a man (matter), and he was not corrupt.Eric Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06321115831719694890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-62047293355068602872012-03-01T02:59:34.383-06:002012-03-01T02:59:34.383-06:00matter = mother = matrix
matter is evil needs a b...matter = mother = matrix<br /><br />matter is evil needs a blood sacrifice to exist otherwise it will go into chaos<br /><br />you must have a blood sacrifice for sin and the flesh is sin<br /><br />jesus died for our souls not for our flesh<br /><br />no flesh enters heaven so there must be a divine service to keep matter together in the millenium <br /><br />the anti christ will offer a 666 system to keep you alove without a need for blood sacrifice, your lips are red to cover the sin of your foul words<br /><br />all sin has to have a blood covering woman still has monthly curse so likewise earth has to have a blood covering to continue in an orderly processbookz.mediahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04948406990029936775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-88964716957919154822012-03-01T02:56:41.817-06:002012-03-01T02:56:41.817-06:00matter = matrix = mother
this is why they have to...matter = matrix = mother<br /><br />this is why they have to sacrifice in the millenium<br /><br />matter is corrupt<br /><br />jesus died for our souls not our bodies<br /><br />for bodies to live they must have a blood sacrifice<br /><br />the 666 mark of the beast will promise no blood sacrifice to keep matter together <br /><br />your flesh is evil your world is fallen and you must have a sacrifice to keep matter from falling apart into chaosbookz.mediahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04948406990029936775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35758338.post-79768442848821983762012-02-14T23:55:30.967-06:002012-02-14T23:55:30.967-06:00ZDENNY, I do not "deny" Hebrews. Please ...ZDENNY, I do not "deny" Hebrews. Please stop bearing false witness.Eric Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06321115831719694890noreply@blogger.com